INTERVIEW WITH MEL VE by Marieke Van Daal
In my recent trip to The Hague, I had the a rare chance to meet with Mel Ve, Alternative Media legend and Creative Director of the cutting edge TV network Conscious Consumer Network.
I started following Mel’s work after I saw her break through documentary film THE MESSAGE back in 2010. I attended the premiere of the film in Amsterdam, and got to meet Mel and her friends in person. Since then Mel Ve has gone on to do some great work, and I bumped into her again at the Breakthrough Energy Movement Conference in 2012.
Mel has been a tireless activist, raising awareness on various fronts, and championing some really interesting causes. Over the years Mel has developed a mixed reputation in the world of Alternative Media, having famously exposed some of the biggest frauds and fakers in the truth movement. Those she has exposed (and their followers) have no shortage of derogatory labels and missives when the name Mel Ve is mentioned. But to many others on an authentic journey of discovery, Mel Ve’s candour and no bullshit approach to her media output, has won her a reputation as being one of the most grounded and trust worthy people in the chaotic world of Alternative media.
Despite what many have read about Mel Ve from those keen to slander her, Mel is a vulnerable, highly perceptive genius who can ponder a given issue and take her world by storm, having written several brilliantly researched books, and contributing to an ongoing body of work that has earned her the reputation as groundbreaking liberation educationalist.
Q: How did you get into Independent Media?
A: Since I was a young girl, I always knew I would one day be a writer, but I had no idea at the time, what I was going to write about. I studied Performing Arts as a subject at school and at University, which gave me some good training and skills. I started modelling at the age of 15, and having a marketable external locus of identity, makes getting noticed in the world of media, that much easier. When I went to London, I worked in various aspects of media, both in front of, and behind the camera. I made the most money as a professional model, with contracts with Marks & Spencer, British Home Stores, Debenhams and Wallis but to name a few. I also worked as an Stylist for a number of interesting brands, including as an Art Director for Coca Cola Trade Press. It was during my time working in media in London that I realised just how twisted main stream media is, which eventually led to my awakening process, and my entry into Independent Media.
Q: Tell us about your various projects you have been involved in?
I have worked on many different projects, some of which are not worth mentioning, as I have since exposed them as scams.
The very first media platform that we started was FREEDOM CENTRAL, which was started on 1 August 2009, and was founded in the presence of our dear friends Bill Ryan and Desiree Rover. In fact, it was Desiree who gave us the very first interview that we did under the FREEDOM CENTRAL label, and Bill Ryan gave me the most epic interview that was so eye opening, that I decided to make my first documentary film THE MESSAGE, based on this interview.
My documentary film LAST OF THE BOERS, is a very personal one for me, as this is a film about the genocide of the people from whom I am descended. It forms part of my STOP SOUTH AFRICAN GENOCIDE platform, which contains all my work and research specially dedicated to helping the people of South Africa.
Then there is Conscious Consumer Network, CCN for short, which is a live broadcast network, which we run from our humble studio. This project has truly been amazing, as it has given us the opportunity to work with some of the most amazing people from across the world.
And of course I could not talk about my work without mentioning DRAGONOLOGY, which is an immense body of work and a passion for me. What I love about DRAGONOLOGY, is that there is so much to learn, and I am always discovering something new. In fact, I recently discovered or identified the oldest and largest civilisation to have yet been found, and I provided compelling evidence there there was at one point, possibly as far back as 70 000 years ago, an advance agrarian, ritual practicing advanced civilisation numbering as many as 6 billion people, living in what is now known as the Kalahari desert. My documentary film SECRETS OF THE KALAHARI covers this subject in great detail, and can be found on dragonology.info.
Q: Some of your work geared towards South Africa, has seen you labelled as a racist, please comment
A: It is so easy to just fall into one’s hereditary programming and preconditioned ideas, and assume that because I am a white South Africa of Boer descent, that I must also be a racist. Let me state upfront that my belief is that racism is an artificial mechanism of division, played out in the public arena as part of the “divide and conquer” strategy. My Mother often commented how I was “colour blind”, as I did not see people as black or white, I just saw people. I grew up in possibly the most multi cultural part of the world, being in the province of Kwa Zulu Natal, which as the name states, is Zululand. Not only did we have a strong native Zulu tribal influence, but we also have the biggest Indian population out side of India, living there. In fact, Durban is famous for it’s curry due to such a large Indian population. Although I experienced the effects of the apartheid years in my early youth, I was too young then to fully understand what it meant. It was in my teens that Nelson Mandela was released from prison, and it was an amazing time to be a South African, as we watched equal rights supposedly be given to all people, or at least that is what we were led to believe at the time. None the less, this time had a very profound effect on my outlook in life, as black and white came together and embraced each other as equals for the first time in South Africa’s history. The promise of the Rainbow Nation is the vision of South Africa that I hold onto, and I am saddened to tears every day at the complete and utter destruction of one of the most beautiful countries on Earth, and the senseless genocide of the farmers that is accelerating in pace every day.
Q: The most controversy seems to be centred around your exposure of Nelson Mandela as a terrorist rather than revering him as a national hero. Please comment
A: We live in very strange times, where saints are treated like sinners, and sinners are treated like saints. My exposure of Nelson Mandela has nothing to do with the fact that he was black, as my work has never been racially motivated. In fact, Nelson Mandela could have been green, pink or purple, it still wouldn’t have changed the fact that he was a murderer and a terrorist, who killed many people, and refused to renounce the use of violence when he was a political prisoner. Even Amnesty International interceded after Mandela’s arrest, but they could do nothing to help him as Mandela refused to renounce the use of violence. I don’t care what colour you are, when you kill people or use violence to hurt innocent people, no matter what your political or religious motivation, you are a terrorist, plain and simple. People revere Mandela as such a hero, but the simple fact is, South Africa was worse off after the presidency of Nelson Mandela, than it was before, and every South African with a bit of common sense will tell you the same. Then of course there is the fact that Nelson Mandela was actually a Jesuit / Vatican puppet / agent. For more information about this, please read my book THE SOUTH AFRICAN GUIDE TO THE GLOBAL CONSPIRACY.
Q: As an Investigative Journalist, you have explored some pretty controversial stories and subjects. How has this impacted on your personal life.
A: One of the most important lessons I learned when I first interviewed David Icke, is that if you are going survive in the world of Independent Media, you need to have a very thick skin. First and foremost, know thyself and be true to yourself. Secondly, don’t give a shit what anybody else says about you, because you know who you are inside, and nothing anybody else says about you will change that. People will say all sorts of rubbish about you, particularly if they are in a bad space themselves. Often people project their own shortcomings at those that they put on a pedestal, as if we are the ones responsible for their misery. It is important to know upfront that you can’t help everyone, because people need to learn to help themselves. Be diligent about how you use your energy, and be wary of those just vamping energy. It is important to learn at an early stage, to pick your battles wisely, and not get drawn into any low level tit for tat, as there is absolutely no point in arguing with small minded people. All they do is bring you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.
Q: How do you deal with unwarranted attacks and slander
A: I have learned to ignore it mostly, and I don’t let any of that stuff sink in. I honestly just feel such sadness and compassion for anybody who may be wracked with that much hatred, that they feel the need to make up lies and publicly slander people they have never met, with false accusations in the public domain. The simple fact is that Biggi and I simply cannot account for the faulty programming and subsequent projections of people we don’t even know. Some of the claims are just far to ludicrous to even acknowledge, nor do we have to dignify any of that kind of low level ugliness with a response or defence. I have been labelled every bad thing in the book, from being a pedophile, to being a pedophile protector, to being a Satanist, to being guilty of crimes against humanity. I have been accused of being MI5, CIA, Mossad and a Vatican Assassin. Biggi and I often just read some of the far fetched allegations and slander and we just laugh it off. We joke about how we only read that stuff to see what is supposedly going on in our lives, because it seems that total strangers seem to know more about what is going on in my life than I do LOL.
Q: How would you describe your relationship with your husband Biggi?
A: As a public figure, I generally make it a rule not to ever discuss my personal relationships in a public forum, and that includes my relationship with my husband, immediate family and closest friends. Some things are just sacred, and my relationship with my husband is one of the most sacred aspects of my life. Apart from the occasional photo together on social media, Biggi and I keep all aspects of our marriage and relationship out of the public arena. Be sure that if you ever read anything negative regarding our relationship on any blog, forum or social media site, that these opinions or expressions are the views of people who have most likely never ever met us in person, nor have they spent time with us. People love drama, and they love to project their dramas and pre conceived ideas onto others, but we don’t let it affect us, as we (Biggi and I) are the only people who really know what is truly going on in our lives.
Like all couples, Biggi and I have been through our fair share of ups and downs over the last 16 years, but we are together for better or worse. We woke up together, we evolved into better people together, we both had to overcome some pretty destructive hereditary programming, which impacted negatively on both of us at times, but we got through it together and we are stronger for it. Knowing what I know about the world we live in, I am always just so grateful to have Biggi in my life, and to share this journey of discovery with him, but most of all, I am just so lucky to have that unconditional love and strong grounding influence in my life.
Q: How do you deal with the pressure of being a public figure?
A: I have had a lot of training back in my days of working in mainstream media. The most important thing to always remember is to keep it real, stay grounded, and always consider how ones words and actions affect the greater good. There is nothing I hate more than fakers and frauds who really only care about themselves, whilst parading under a thin veneer of pseudo respectability, pretending to save the planet. I have always prided myself on is being completely authentic and real, and keeping my perspective in the humble. At the same time I recognise that fame is just an illusion, a collective perception that exists only in the minds of other people, and that perception is filtered through many layers of prejudice and programming. I don’t do what I do for any other reason than to educate and inform. Not interested in being placed on a pedestal.
Q: Describe a typical day in the life of Mel Ve
A: My days are never typical. There is a fair amount of routine in getting the basics done that need to be done in order to run our various projects, but there are also so many challenges that we are constantly faced with, and they constantly keep us on our toes, having to find solutions and evolve in new ways. But a rather typical day for me starts with me getting up with the sun: In summer that means I am up and and in front of my computer at 6am, doing my administrative work, checking my emails, working on documentaries, books or content for Conscious Consumer Network. We run the network pretty much full time, so there is always some editing or writing work that needs to be done. We don’t party or go out much, as I find all that so profane these days, and to be honest, I have partied so much in my youth, that it honestly does not excite me that much anymore. I don’t waste time socialising with people who do not enhance my life, as I have moved past the need to be part of a social clique. As I get older I do prefer the company of my books and kitty. I also am committed to the vegan pursuit, and keeping my body clean and healthy, so that means very little alcohol consumption and no drugs, not even pharmaceutical.
I really do wish I had more time to paint, as I have been painting for art galleries since the age of 11, and it is like therapy for me, but sadly I have not painted in over 2 years due to the commitment in running CCN. I just simply do not have the time. I do hope to change that in the near future, but at the moment we are still working 18 hours a day on average. We have not had a break in over 3 years, having produced and broadcast over 2400 shows since we started, and we are involved in several different projects all at once.
Q: Tell us about your upcoming projects
A: For now I am keeping certain things under wraps, but there is always something exciting going on behind the scenes in my world. I really do wish I could be more open and it is all very exciting, but I have learned to be disciplined in how I dispense information, and now is not the right time. Biggi and I have had to learn the very hard way that not everybody out there has good intentions, and some people are just down right malicious, and will do anything to destroy a fledgling project out of jealousy. However what I will say is that one of my most immediate project and goal for 2017, is to finish book II of the DRAGONOLOGY series. We released SPELL BREAKER, which is book I of the DRAGONOLOGY series, at the end of 2016, and it has gotten rave reviews so far. I look forward to getting the second book finished.
Q: Will there be a season 4 of DRAGONOLOGY?
A: Honestly, I am hoping to make some documentaries next, and hopefully that will include some travel, as we have been pretty tied to running CCN from our studio here in The Hague since the launch 3 years ago. We are looking at ways to make ourselves more mobile, so that we can get out and film a few documentaries. I am really hoping to raise the funding to get out to South Africa in the near future, in order to make a feature length version of SECRETS OF THE KALAHARI. I have created a shorter mock up version which is available to download from DRAGONOLOGY.INFO.
As for season 4 of DRAGONOLOGY, well that will happen at some stage, as DRAGONOLOGY is an ever expanding field of research, so there is always more tho learn and teach.